Level up: your foursquare badges now show your expertise
For a long time, it’s been obvious that foursquare was adding new core badges with the goal of singling out individuals who were experts at certain things, whether it be hardware stores or diners. Now we know why. Foursquare’s core badges can now “level up,” making them a quick way to show your expertise on pizza places, for instance. To help show expertise in more areas, they’ve also added three new badges.
Each area of expertise follows the same rules (you first have to unlock the underlying badges, though):
- You hit Level 1 for checking in five times to a place in a category, or three unique places.
- Level 2 is for five unique places.
- And from there, every level up is five more unique places, so you get rewarded for exploration!
Foursquare says they’re looking into ways to make it obvious who the experts are when you’re at a sushi place, for instance. That way tips from a level 8 sushi expert, for instance, would carry more weight than those from a sushi beginner.
When you look at one of your own badges, you’ll see what level your friends stand at on that same badge. It’s fun to know that a friend who’s a flight attendant is at level 8 on the Jetsetter badge, while the vast majority of my friends hang out around levels one and two.
There are three new badges introduced as part of the rollout:
- Herbivore honors experts in the vegetarian lifestyle
- Hot Tamale celebrates your love of Mexican food
- Bento separates the sushi experts from those still learning to use chopsticks
These new levels are a great way for foursquare to show — in a more visual manner — which users are real experts. I’d be much more likely to ask for advice from someone who’s at a higher level than someone who’s just starting. They should also help to eliminate that drop in user engagement as users hit the “badge wall” where they’ve unlocked most of the badges they’re likely to get.
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This is such a great idea…
And a cool way to keep people interested who do not live in areas conducive to plethora’s of partner and limited edition badges.
AND NEW CORE BADGES?!?
Foursquare sure knows how to liven up an otherwise mundane Monday..
Are the new badges retroactive?
I ask because I know the next time I check-in to a mexican joint I could potentially already be a level 4 or something crazy…
I assume that’s the case. I expect to hit Hot Tamale Level 9 in a single checkin
Already have Bookworm at Level 2, but meh. Don’t really care for leveling…The new core badges though! Awesome. A dinosaur on a badge
and the mexican food one will probably me my next badge.
They should definitely have the level up function for the food truck badge!
Somehow this reminds me instantly of Oink.
But then, I don’t think that using badges to show a user’s level of expertise is such a good idea… I’m already used to thinking of badges as of something you unlock once and for all and then it stays on your profile forever, unchanged. Also there aren’t enough badges at the moment to cover all areas of possible expertise – there’s only this couple of food badges, bookstores and outdoors and that’s it. And users can’t come up with their own ideas for a new field of expertise (while on Oink I myself can choose what I want to be an “expert” in). I think badges is not necessarily the best implementation of the “expertise” idea. The way the iPhone app, for instance, shows the most visited categories in the last 6 months is better by a mile because it takes into account a much bigger number of subcategories.
Somehow it looks to me like foursquare haven’t thought this one out.
Then, you can’t argue that to some users badges may also have something of a nostalgic value, say a Fresh Brew badge unlocked during a certain event they like to look back at, and now all that gets messed up?
Ok. These are actually fairly valid points. And sure enough when I went to look at badges i have leveled up in, sure enough, they only show the date of when you leveled up and not the initial unlock…
I went from thrilled to upset in 1.5 comments.
I like the leveling, but think that the date and location when it was first unlocked should not change.
It’s also funny to me that I’m now supposed to be a level 4 expert in coffee while in reality I can’t remember when I last had a cup, I just go to coffee shops every now and then to get a chai tea.
Hopefully they’ll address this and have dates for each level (including initial unlock) displayed alongside the badge. Kind of seems like an oversight but I would guess the data is still stored somewhere, just not visible.
I didn’t think of that… It is kind of upsetting. I guess it would be nice to have dates listed (and venue) for unlocking each level.
But in general I’m totally loving these new bragging rights! Foursquare just got exciting again.
So do these bragging rights have a maximum level/limit? Does it stop at a certain level? Can a user go beyond being a Level 10 expert?
I thought I was the aforementioned Flight Attendant, but my badge is at Level 9. I have others that are level 9. Could that be the max?
I’m also excited by the new badges. I’m sure I’ll unlock the Hot Tamale and Bento badge soon!
Does this change the number of checkins required for a badge? Level 1 is 5 checkins in a category or 3 unique places, but the Pizzaiolo badge is 20 unique places. Does that mean Pizzaiolo is awarded after 5 checkins, or is it still 20 different places, in which you automatically are at level 5.
The badge rules don’t change. I don’t think it’s actually possible to be anything less than level 5 on Pizzaiolo, for instance. It’s kind of strange, but I think it would be pretty upsetting for them to suddenly change the rules.
UPDATE: Please see my comment below.
I just became a level 2 on Pizzaiolo with 5 different pizza places, completely unexpected for me
especially those of us who are literally 1 check-in at a “new pizza venue” away from finally earning the pizzaiolo badge…
This does indeed change the rules for “expertise” badges. I’m a level 5 Pizzaiolo and there are some level 1, 2, 3 and so on. It seems to have gotten much easier to obtain some of the more elusive badges.
I stand corrected. You’re right, the rules for all the expertise badges have changed. Now I’m a little angry that I agreed to pick up a pizza on Friday night instead of having it delivered just so I could get one more checkin toward my 20
I geeked out when I saw this. I love the idea, and I was also wondering, like Jason, if this would change the unlock criteria for the expertise badges. Even if it doesn’t, I’m still excited for the new badges, especially the Mexican and Japanese ones.
Nice way to show the real users and bring new life for the badges. I am sure to rely on a friend’s expertise on some venues. Good move!
do taco places = mexican?
You would have to check the main category given to the place you frequent to see if it is a Mexican restaurant or not.
Highest I am is level 4 (for Great Outdoors and Fixer Upper).
Like these new badge ranks quite a bit.
I agree that all level ups should be listed. I like looking back at my badges and seeing when and where I got them.
Just to play devil’s advocate for a moment, but won’t this move just encourage a lot of mis-categorised venues? Not to mention pointless venues that don’t actually exist? Surely there’s enough pointless clutter in the venue database already.
The system they have NOW encourages this. I see users who create miscategorized venues for every room in their homes to unlock badges. Foursquare doesn’t fucking care, man. They’d rather have traffic than honesty.
Hah, I’m with Michael on this. Foursquare kinda started all this with pretty relaxed rules, and as the idiot users and cheaters multiplied, Foursquare felt inundated and just backed away from doing much of anything about it.
Great idea! Hope I get to get to level up on my badges soon.
I checked in at 5 different airports to get the Jetsetter badge under the old rules, shouldn’t that automatically make me a Level 2 under the new system? It shows me as Level 1.
I only achieved the Jetsetter badge on Friday… when I returned home tonight and checked in again at my home airport (one of the five visited for the original unlock), it jumped to level two.
Yeah! Finally a badge for México! jejeje
Wow up to level 7 on Pizza Joints, and 4 on bakeries. Time to go on a diet :-/
I got the Hot Tamale level 4 today with one check-in. Retroactive is cool, but I wish they would list which unique venues got you the badge. I can guess, but I really have no idea which ones counted.
Has any one leveled up on the Triple Play badge yet ?
I’m sorry, but I find this really funny. The things people do…
So does this change of rule apply to the Baker’s Dozen badge? That would be kind of weird because it’s called a baker’s dozen badge and it was intended for a dozen (or 13) check-ins.